“If it is necessary, our atomized consciousness invents love, imagines it or feigns it, but does not live without it,…
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I found “The Old Gringo” by Carlos Fuentes to be about what I was expecting; a somewhat turbulent novel that is set around war. It was a bit confusing to read as the perspective seemed to change frequently, but how the chapters were broken into smaller parts helped organize the text a little more. Throughout … Continue reading Week 9: Fuentes’s “The Old Gringo” →
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I’m not sure if it was just the version of the novel that I had, but certain parts of the story resembled poetry to me. Not only with how it was written, but how it was visually represented on the pages. With some sentences cutting short and then finishing them in subsequent lines that have […]
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I found Fuentes’ novel, The Old Gringo, a little bit hard to read. The plot was convoluted, and I didn’t quite understand the nature of the relationship that most of the characters shared. However, reading the lecture notes definitely made me feel better because I realized that that was done intentionally.
Personally, I found the whole plot of the book kind of odd because of how the idea of the Mexican Revolution was romanticized in the old American’s mind. For example, when the narrator likens being a gringo in Mexico and dying there to euthanasia, I felt like the old man was undermining the ramifications of the Mexican Revolution. This is somewhat reminiscent of how people tend to treat wars that do not concern them directly as something that could serve their pleasure. Moreover, he chose to insert himself into the situation at his age just to die in a blaze of glory.
Additionally, I was kind of uncomfortable with Harriet Winslow’s role throughout the book. She played an important part in bringing the old man’s body back to the United States and was the sole survivor of all the events, but was largely treated as an object by Arroyo and the old man. Both of them viewed her as a means to an end, whether it was forcing her into the role of a lover or into a weird daughter/lover dynamic. Hence, I found this portion of the text was difficult to comprehend, no matter how hard I tried.
A fascinating aspect of this book is how it is a fictionalized work of an actual incident; following the actions of American writer Ambrose Bierce. I found this to be quite interesting, especially because of how he disappeared without a trace and how no one actually knew what happened to him. The notion that this text is a fictionalized narration of a series of events is intriguing because there is a minute chance that some of it could be true.
Overall, I found The Old Gringo to be a confusing read with many messages. I guess my question to the class would be: what are your thoughts on the old American’s decision to take part in a Mexican Revolution for no reason other than to die a glorious death? Do you think Harriet impacted him in an actual, real way?
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I found Fuentes’ novel, The Old Gringo, a little bit hard to read. The plot was convoluted, and I didn’t quite understand the nature of the relationship that most of the characters shared. However, reading the lecture notes definitely made me feel better because I realized that that was done intentionally.
Personally, I found the whole plot of the book kind of odd because of how the idea of the Mexican Revolution was romanticized in the old American’s mind. For example, when the narrator likens being a gringo in Mexico and dying there to euthanasia, I felt like the old man was undermining the ramifications of the Mexican Revolution. This is somewhat reminiscent of how people tend to treat wars that do not concern them directly as something that could serve their pleasure. Moreover, he chose to insert himself into the situation at his age just to die in a blaze of glory.
Additionally, I was kind of uncomfortable with Harriet Winslow’s role throughout the book. She played an important part in bringing the old man’s body back to the United States and was the sole survivor of all the events, but was largely treated as an object by Arroyo and the old man. Both of them viewed her as a means to an end, whether it was forcing her into the role of a lover or into a weird daughter/lover dynamic. Hence, I found this portion of the text was difficult to comprehend, no matter how hard I tried.
A fascinating aspect of this book is how it is a fictionalized work of an actual incident; following the actions of American writer Ambrose Bierce. I found this to be quite interesting, especially because of how he disappeared without a trace and how no one actually knew what happened to him. The notion that this text is a fictionalized narration of a series of events is intriguing because there is a minute chance that some of it could be true.
Overall, I found The Old Gringo to be a confusing read with many messages. I guess my question to the class would be: what are your thoughts on the old American’s decision to take part in a Mexican Revolution for no reason other than to die a glorious death? Do you think Harriet impacted him in an actual, real way?
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Regarding the text; The Old Gringo by Carlos Fuentes, the novel is about the memories of a woman named Harriet Winslow during the time that civil war had begun and was occurring in Mexico. Firstly to start, I love reading novels that have historical aspects to them as I am incredibly interested in history. Another […]
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For this week, I have chosen to read “The Old Gringo” written by Carlos Fuentes, which from the book cover I thought this novel would be mainly focused on the Mexican revolution. However, there seemed to be so much more themes in this story. One of them was an unexpected love triangle of some sort […]
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The old gringo is set in historic Mexico during the Mexican revolution. This story took a couple of turns that I was not expecting, but it definitely kept me wanting more. The love tale told within the story had both passion, and deceit, which kept it interesting every step of the way. My expectation of …
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For this week, I decided to read The Old Gringo by Carlos Fuentes. It touches on themes including memory, regret, war, and family. The Old Gringo, who turns out to be the American author Ambrose Bierce, travels to Mexico at the time of the civil war to die in the revolution. I found this reading to be a little difficult to read, but still quite interesting.
I enjoyed how we were able to trace how each The Old Gringo, General Arroyo, and Ms. Winslow’s pasts played a role in how they all ended up encountering each other. For the Old Gringo, his past actions and the downfall of his family and the lifestyle that led to the death of his sons brought him across the border. It is often repeated in the text how “to be a gringo in Mexico is one way of dying,” (89). The old man comes to Mexico with the intent to die, but before he does he builds a relationship with Ms. Winslow. There are many times within the story that we see one of the character’s identities being impacted by their parents. Especially for Ms. Winslow and Arroyo who were abandoned by their fathers and try to compensate for this through their respective relationships with the old man. This is made clear when Ms. Winslow has the old gringo buried as her father, I think it’s an act of closure for her to have someone to put to rest in that grave. However, because of this father/daughter dynamic, I was confused by their suggested romantic relationship.
I found it really interesting to learn that this story was based on a real American short story writer, journalist, and soldier. Also, the concept that Carlos Fuentes used of taking a real narrative and filling in the gaps with a fictional story to answer the mystery of the circumstances of his death. This along with the poetic style Fuentes wrote in, made it a unique narrative that allows the reader to reflect on the greater themes. I think because the story was told from Ms. Winslow’s point of view, the readers were able to have a better understanding of both the old man and General Arroyo from the perspective of a woman who understands and was exposed to both their perspectives.
My question for the class is why do you think Fuentes used Ambrose Bierce’s story as a point of view for the Mexican revolution?
For this week, I decided to read The Old Gringo by Carlos Fuentes. It touches on themes including memory, regret, war, and family. The Old Gringo, who turns out to be the American author Ambrose Bierce, travels to Mexico at the time of the civil war to die in the revolution. I found this reading to be a little difficult to read, but still quite interesting.
I enjoyed how we were able to trace how each The Old Gringo, General Arroyo, and Ms. Winslow’s pasts played a role in how they all ended up encountering each other. For the Old Gringo, his past actions and the downfall of his family and the lifestyle that led to the death of his sons brought him across the border. It is often repeated in the text how “to be a gringo in Mexico is one way of dying,” (89). The old man comes to Mexico with the intent to die, but before he does he builds a relationship with Ms. Winslow. There are many times within the story that we see one of the character’s identities being impacted by their parents. Especially for Ms. Winslow and Arroyo who were abandoned by their fathers and try to compensate for this through their respective relationships with the old man. This is made clear when Ms. Winslow has the old gringo buried as her father, I think it’s an act of closure for her to have someone to put to rest in that grave. However, because of this father/daughter dynamic, I was confused by their suggested romantic relationship.
I found it really interesting to learn that this story was based on a real American short story writer, journalist, and soldier. Also, the concept that Carlos Fuentes used of taking a real narrative and filling in the gaps with a fictional story to answer the mystery of the circumstances of his death. This along with the poetic style Fuentes wrote in, made it a unique narrative that allows the reader to reflect on the greater themes. I think because the story was told from Ms. Winslow’s point of view, the readers were able to have a better understanding of both the old man and General Arroyo from the perspective of a woman who understands and was exposed to both their perspectives.
My question for the class is why do you think Fuentes used Ambrose Bierce’s story as a point of view for the Mexican revolution?
